All posts for the month March, 2008

Tomorrow is the St Patrick’s day parade and celebration downtown so I’m just going to repost a blog from the past to let you know how the day goes. Looking at the forecast it looks like maybe a decent day with a hit or miss shower. I’m liking the fact that the winds don’t seem to be an issue this season year like they have been in the past. Anyways here is pretty much how our day will go tomorrow and maybe I’ll bump into some of you downtown.

Tips and Tales of St Patty’s Day in Downtown Syracuse

St Patrick’s Day Weekend is here in Syracuse. Unfortunately only one of the few times I get to get out and enjoy Downtown Syracuse. A bunch of us every year, about 20 or more of us which is a mix of men and women normally hit a local soda pop bar early in the day. OK day meaning morning what can I say? Yes in the morning and don’t be coming to any conclusions. It’s only once a year we do this. Anyways family and friends come to town just for this day downtown. From Virginia, Poughkeepsie, Boston and so on. St Patty’s Day downtown is so much fun that people come from all over the country for it.

Here is how the whole day plays out or should I say is suppose to play out. It hardly ever goes as planned which makes it even more fun. We normally start out at the Park Hill Tavern in East Syracuse where we get dropped off by our designated driver for the day. Normally one of our kids who BTW get paid well for for driving us but it is well worth it. Don’t drink pop and drive. We catch the bus from the Park Hill to the city. So far in the 15 years give or take that we have been doing this I don’t think we have ever caught the bus we intended to. Either all of us aren’t there yet or we weren’t watching for the bus and we miss the one intended. Once we even got on the wrong bus and ended up in NYC. Well not NYC but definitely the wrong bus that had a lot of detours on the way. It would of been faster walking there that year.

Finally we end up downtown for the Parade. Once we were even fortunate enough to see the parade. That was only because when we got off the bus the parade happened to be right there. Don’t get me wrong, we do see the parade it’s just that we watch it from inside the fine city bars that are heated and by the way are always packed when we arrive there. I just wanted to point out that we are not the only ones that start out early in the morning on St Patty’s Day . One thing we do before we start is we each pitch in 20 bucks a person and elect two people to be in charge of buying the drinks all day. The bars are crowded so it would be foolish for 20 + people to go in together and stand at the bar, or should I say attempt to stand at the bar. Another note is that the first 20.00 we pitch in won’t be the last and when I say drinks I’m talking soda pops of course . Tip – One thing I have learned about being elected to the Most important job of the day which is by far buying the drinks is that the first round you buy make sure you order the opposite of what the people wanted. You’ll be the bad guy for a little while but it is well worth the shame, the boos and dirty looks of not being able to order a round of drinks correctly when they impeach you from that position and you get out of ordering the drinks for the rest of the day. Trust me, someone else will take over As for being the bad guy, sooner or later someone else will do something stupid to earn the title of bad guy so you’ll be off the hook in no time.

Most of the day pretty much consists of freezing our tails off but having a Super time in the process. The way we do St Patty’s day is pretty much just bar hop all day and test out all some of the different variety’s of brews that are on tap at the bars. I suppose you could say that we aren’t there so much as to have fun but let’s say we are doing research work on the brews. Maybe this year we will even take notes on our research. I do know that most of the men with us prefer the darker soda pops. Another good tip is to elect a leader to lead your group to the different bars. Someone who actually knows their way around the city of Syracuse. Remember, most of the time it is pretty cold out and for some reason almost always without fail the wind is blowing pretty good. The worse thing is to make a wrong turn and walk for a half a mile or so only to find out you have to go back the other way. For that my Brother in-law normally gets elected and does a fine job most of the time but every now and then he makes a wrong turn. That’s normally a good thing for who ever is the bad guy at the time enabling him to pass the title over to my brother in-law for getting us lost. Like I said the “bad guy or gal” gets passed along throughout the day and always has a ton of laughs to go along with it. Jeez, now that I am typing and keep seeing the word elected. I’m starting to see that St Patty’s Day is actually a fine example of the democracy in progress with all the elections we have going on. Most of the time the person being elected isn’t and to be frank doesn’t want to be elected

All in all we hit maybe 5 – 7 bars. We’ll normally order appetizers, wings or something at one of the bars early and then end up at Clarks sooner or later for one of their great roast beef sandwiches. If you go to Clarks don’t let the lines fool you. They rock at moving the customers along and you have your food in no time. The roast beef is well worth standing in line for. It’s truly awesome. I wish I could plug all the bars that we hit but to be honest with you I’m just a follower the whole day hoping I don’t get lost or left behind and never really check out the names of the bars we hit. I can only guess that any bar you end up in you’ll have a great time. One thing that bothered me a bit last year is that during the day a lot of the bars weren’t playing Irish songs. I don’t know what was up with that. To the bar owners Please at least play Irish music in the daytime.

The biggest tip I can give is to dress warm. When your ready to leave the house and feel that your dressed up warm enough, go back and grab 3 extra coats. Only then will you be prepared for a great St Patty’s day downtown. Then again I think it was a couple of years ago when the temps went up to 60 degrees and here was the Golden Snowball dude carrying a coat and 2 sweatshirts around looking like a fool. I did try the “can you hold this for a second while I do whatever” trick but that only worked for so long. I should of trusted the weatherman that time.

The day downtown or sometimes night downtown (depending on how much research some of us have done) will end with one of us calling our designated drivers to come pick us up. We use to try and catch or call a couple of taxis to get home but that is another story or two in itself. The last time we called for two taxis only one showed up. Being the gentlemen that we are (yes only gentlemen in our group ) we told the ladies to go ahead and we would suffer and wait it out until the next taxi shows up. Well what are the chances of not one of us having a watch on and you all know how time flies. Before we knew it almost a couple of hours went by. Anyways I’m sure you already figured out that the ladies weren’t too happy with the men. Something to this day I haven’t figured out because we all thought the women would of been impressed with how patient we were waiting for the taxi to arrive. Everyone knows men aren’t known to be patient and so what if our patience was being displayed at a hopping bar. That shouldn’t even come in to the picture should it That was the end to taxi’s being used for the ride back to town.

Summary Finally – Sorry about the rant. I really could of kept going on. To sum it up I always thought St Patrick’s day was a great big party downtown. After typing this up I discovered it’s actually a democracy process in the works with all the electing we do in our group along with research work. Research on the different brews of beer downtown. The research work by far is the hardest part of the day. Now knowing that it’s not the Big Party that I always thought it was I probably won’t be able to enjoy it like I have in the past. I’ll give it my best shot though

Have a Great Weekend All!

For the first time since the 2004-2005 snow season Buffalo has gone over the 100 inch mark!

Hold off the ballons and party we have a snow contest to win here!

Buffalo was the big winner for the clipper last night with 1.5 inches. Bingo and Cuse picked up an even inch, Rochester picked up 9/10th’s and Albany continues to slack with a big old goose egg!

Buffalo is 1.0 inches out of 2nd and 7.9 inches out of 1st.

Rochester is 6.9 inches out of 1st.

Bingo and Albany… just forget about it!

This is turning into one heck of contest now and might come down to the last snow day to get our winner!!!

Looking at the snowfall potential comming forawrd:

1. This weekend remains uncertain! A major difference in model tracks of a storm this weekend leaves a big question mark. One model brings us a small burst of mixed precip while another model brings as much as a foot of snow into all of the competing cities. Gonna have to wait and see how this one pans out way to much uncertaintly right now… What else is new!?!?!?

2. A storm that has been on the models for some time now looks to head into the area Wednesday into Thursday. It’s still a back and forth jump between a wind and rain event and a major late season noreaster. I’m leaning towards the rain and wind event, but again… a storm to watch heading into next week.

3. A seasonal pattern with a clipper or two holds on through the end of March but commming towards the start of April some signs are poiting towards the end of winter and us finally entering into a spring trend!

The days are numbered now… LET’S GO BUFFALO!!!!

Right now the supposedly Oracle of the Golden Snowball stats is getting his butt kicked by the General for our Winter outlook predictions. I’m not yelling Uncle yet though because I still think we have at least another 4 – 5 weeks of on and off snow left. I look OK on some of my predictions and the General right now looks better on his. Here is our predictions that we posted back in November of 2007:

The Generals Snow Predictions

Albany – 65 (-8.2)
Bingo – 85 (-20)
Buffalo – 105 (-6.3)
Rochester – 95 (+5.3)
Syracuse – 125 (-17.9)

My Predictions

Syracuse -151 inches (-43.9)
Buffalo – 123 inches (-24.3)
Rochester – 121 inches (-20.7)
Binghamton – 106 inches (-41)
Albany – 72 inches (-15.2)

I’m not real worried about Buffalo, Rochester and Albany right now but I do have some concerns with Binghamton and Syracuse. Another good storm like last weekend and I’m looking better. Right now I have to give Kudos to the General though for looking pretty, pretty, pretty good. Can you tell Curb Your Enthusiasm is one of my favorite shows?

Here are my snow season predictions!

Here are the Generals season predictions!

Tom posted a comment that Syracuse lost an inch of snow overnight and he is right. For some reason Syracuse dropped from 108 inches down to 107 inches. It could be an adjustment fixing a previous mistake at NOAA or it could be a mistake that was made overnight. We’ll have to wait and see if the inch gets added back or not. Right now the race just got closer and Syracuse’s lead has been cut to less than 7 inches without the other cities getting any snow. Lets hope that doesn’t happen down the stretch too many time. Daver, where are you? We all miss your great input!

Have a Great Day All!

Sean Kirst has an article out today about the Golden Snowball contest and his opening line to the story “As any disciple of Syracuse University basketball knows, this is not a good year to take big leads for granted. “
is dead on I think. Check it out at

For those of you who were late to work today the chances are you may have forgotten to set you clocks ahead an hour yesterday morning because we do it earlier now. Just remember Winter ahead, Fall behind and you will have no problems. Hmm, Winter ahead just doesn’t sound right does it???

Rochester isn’t having any part of Buffalo thinking they can just slip past them without a fight. They picked up just enough snow by Sunday evening to slide past them once again and to take the second place slot away from them. Rochester is also the second city now to hit their annual average snowfall for the season after Buffalo hit theirs over the weekend. Syracuse needs another 4 inches to go over their average annual snowfall for the season and Albany has been pretty close to theirs for awhile now. Hopefully both Rochester and Buffalo got a good enough taste of being close to the top to make a real effort now to dethrone Syracuse to bring home the golden snowball trophy to one of their cities.

I think Binghamton has been the biggest disappointment of the snow season so far and to be honest with all of you it really surprises me because of the storms we have had this season. You would think they would have benefited Binghamton but so far that hasn’t been the case. With most of these storms coming from the Gulf area the air has been just a little too warm for Bingo to take advantage of them. If the air was just a few degrees colder with these storms the chances are that Binghamton and for that matter all of the GSB cities would be wayyyy over their annual snow totals by now.

I’ll try to track down some of the bigger city snow stats for the nation later today when I have some time because the chances are that some of these cities took a good pounding also over the weekend. Have a great Monday all!

Wow, How much one little storm can change the standings.

Buffalo picked up a record snowfall of 8.2 inches on Friday and then beat that best by hitting a second consecutive record snowfall of 13.1 inches on Saturday. The 21.3 storm total ups Buffalo to 98.4 inches for the year, and as of right now ONLY 6 inches behind Syracuse!

Rochester may have fallen to 3rd place but they aren’t to far behind they picked up 5.5 inches on Friday and 7.6 inches on Saturday to move up to 97.7 inches on the season, just a few tenths behind Buffalo.

As long as Syracuse doesn’t get any run away lake effect going we are going to come down to the wire for this year’s winner. Well let’s hope we get a chance for another snowfall, spring is almost here!

From the Snowman – I’m just going to tap into the General’s post here and say WOW! Who would have thought Buffalo would have been the first to go past their average snowfall for the season? I wouldn’t have, at least not a few days ago. Congrats to Buffalo for taking over second place and better yet for being only 5 inches away from taking over the lead in the 2007 – 2008 Golden Snowball contest.

Buffalo and Rochester are making a charge to be the king of the hill. Snow hill that is and if they are smart they will wait until after around 6:30 or so because most likely there will be 30,000 plus SU fans on the SU hill to defend it with the Orangemen game against Marquette going on today. Just a heads up that the schedule says the game is at 2 pm but it’s actually at 4 pm. GO CUSE!!!

Here is a time lapse cam shot from Meddaugh on Wunderground that shows a 24 hour time lapse for the Rochester area for the March 7th and 8th storm.

Today, March 7th – 8th

Here is a time lapse cam from Springville, NY which I believe is just south east of Buffalo not far from Lake Erie. I found this on PMS’s wundergrounds site.

March 7th – 8th 2008

More New York weather cams at

Buffalo broke a record for the day yesterday picking up 8.2 inches and there is more on the way. Both Rochester and Buffalo are making a late season charge to be the King of the snow mountain in hopes of winning the convented golden snowball trophy and Syracuse better be on the offense to fend them off and probably will be come later this evening. Rochester has closed the gap to almost within a foot of snow and all 3 cities WILL be getting snow today, tonight or both. Buffalo is also closing in on second place right now with less than 5 inches of the white gold separating them and Rochester who picked up 5.5 inches of snow and hit the 90 inch mark. It should be interesting as to how the cities rank come the end of Sunday.

Buffalo for the first time in a long, long time has finally gone over their average snowfall for the date but now Binghamton has fallen below theirs. Then again all of the Golden Snowball cities are over their last seasons totals now except for Syracuse.

From reading around and always check with your local meteorologists it looks like Syracuse may be getting only 3 – 7 inches of snow along with some winds to blow it around come later in the day or evening. Buffalo and Rochester could be getting another 9 – 17 inches by tomorrow morning along with some wind which is why I think the stats should be pretty interesting come tomorrow morning. Is there a new leader in the works???? Enjoy the weekend all and “See Snow, Drive Sow”. Take it slow out there on the roads today and tonight.